interoperability between open source and closed source software
Portable7411
Hong Kong
I want to get the best of both worlds. To do this, I need to understand interoperability between opensource and closed source software. This means questions such as:
1) Can I run Emotiv software on OpenBCI hardware?
2) Can I run software typically used with OpenBCI on Emotiv?
3) How useful are the commercial, but more gamified interfaces in general? Would you say they're crucial for holding ADHD attention?
4) I'm reading a lot of papers on EEG plots. Brainbay seems to be more familiar. Might OpenBCI be a more familiar platform to relate to given this literature background? Or is it worth paying a bit more for more commercial support
5) What can I NOT do with OpenBCI hardware that is significant?
6) What can I NOT do with closed hardware? (discontinued support? poor repairability etc?)
I currently run MacOS. I switched to this after years of linux. While it has a lot of annoyances, I like that I can run linux-like CLI programs via projects such as Brew and get many of the benefits of open source, while at the same time having support for proprietary software if I really need it. This is the approach I want to establish with my BCI hardware purchase.
Sorry to post a non-technical purchase question (I'd prefer to see a sticky for this question).
What do you recommend?
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Hi Portable,
You also have the ability to email directly with (sales at openbci.com)
No.
OpenBCI supports many other BCI apps / frameworks, so some of these may work with Emotiv,
https://docs.openbci.com/Software/CompatibleThirdPartySoftware/Matlab/
However the OpenBCI_GUI does NOT work with Emotiv, GUI only supports OpenBCI devices. In the past Emotiv charged users a monthly fee to access the raw data stream. Not sure if this is still the case. OpenBCI data is totally free.
Suggest exploring Dr. Cody Rall's material online, he has both a website and Youtube.
I'm not clear on what you are asking here. By 'EEG plots' you may be referring to QEEG brain maps used in neurofeedback. That generally requires equipment used by clinicians costing upwards of $10K.
The QEEG as mentioned.
Suggest asking those vendors.
OpenBCI_GUI runs fine on macOS.
Many thanks!
I will investigate the qEEG options at https://openbci.com/forum/index.php?p=/discussion/2854/open-source-qeeg-software-resolved
With advances in AI, qEEG should quickly get cheaper. We just all need to share the data as much as possible
There are some good links and papers on that page.
I'm not sure AI is going to bring the cost down. As mentioned in the Forum link you cite, a crucial issue is the normative database creation from hundreds to thousands of 'normal' clients. This requires expert testing and control and maintenance. Which means lots of human man-hours involved.
I have not done a recent survey, but there are likely now sites where you can upload QEEG recordings and get maps. As you may know the standard procedure to create a QEEG map, is to record two files of client data each a couple minutes long: eyes closed sitting quietly, and eyes open looking at a spot on the wall, again quietly. These are always recorded with a 19 channel amplifier, typically with a gel based electrode cap.
Systems like Neuroguide or Brainmaster Avatar go far beyond just map creation, allowing 'live z-score training' where your live data / map is compared in real time to the normative database. And feedback is given to 'steer' the client brainwave generation closer to the norm. Robert Thacker at ANI (Neuroguide) a prominent founder of this type of work. But actually even prior to him, E Roy John at NYU created the first such system and Thacker was on that team. The current BrainDx database was derived from the NYU work, with refinements.
https://braindx.net/about.php
http://anineuroguide.com/